Friday, June 11, 2010

Really Slim Thug? lol


Ok, please read Slim Thugs words below and jump under them for mine.

Slim Thug Says:
The way Black people think in general is messed up. Both men and women need to change their way of thinking. It’s hard to trust a Black woman [sometimes] because a lot of Black women’s mind frame is that the man gotta do everything for her⎯ he gotta pay for this, he gotta pay for that, and if it ain’t about money then a lot of them ain’t fucking with him. If that’s what you’re here for then I don’t want to be with you.
Most single Black women feel like they don’t want to settle for less. Their standards are too high right now. They have to understand that successful Black men are kind of extinct. We’re important. It’s hard to find us so Black women have to bow down and let it be known that they gotta start working hard; they gotta start cooking and being down for they man more. They can’t just be running around with their head up in the air and passing all of us.
I have a brother that dates a White woman and he always be fucking with me about it saying, “Y’all gotta go through all that shit [but] my White woman is fine. She don’t give me no problems, she do whatever I say and y’all gotta do all that arguing and fighting and worry about all this other shit.”
My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the shit that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that. She don’t be begging and I don’t gotta buy her all this crazy ass shit. And she’s a smart girl too. She graduated from Columbia [University] and I like that about her so it’s cool. I’ve dated girls that will buy a $3,000 bag and don’t know how to pay it off on their credit cards. They walk around in these Louis Vuittons and red bottoms but they’re riding around in raggedy cars, so it’s just getting your priorities right.
White women treat they man like a king and Black women feel like they ain’t gotta do that shit. Black women need to stand by their man more. Don’t always put the pressure of if I’m fucking with you, you gotta buy me this and that. Black men are the ones that motherfuckers need [but] I think a lot of them need to step it up too. A Black man who gets a little bread will go make it rain in the club and be broke the next day or instead of him going to invest in a business he gonna go buy new jewelry or a new car and still live in the hood. Black peoples’ mentality is real fucked up in general [and] it’s affecting everything.
Black women need to be more genuine and be more 50/50 [but] It should be a fair exchange in a relationship period or eventually somebody is gonna feel like they’re getting fucked over whether it’s the woman or the man. I think that will help Black relationships out a lot.

KayKi Says:

Unfortunately for you to have generalized an entire race of people discredits your argument to me from the very door. There is no way that all Black people, all Black women, or all White women can be generalized in any way except that they are Black or White women and people.

Also, for the record, successful Black men are not extinct. Success comes in many forms, and women arent always looking for money with success. A bigger issue here is that within the Black community, many women ARE the bread winners, and are HAVING to step up to the plate. Considering that, why would a woman with a job, and a career, and goals settle for a man who'd prefer to sit on HER coach all day? As far as your devotion to White women, I think thats great, whatever floats your boat, but please by all means dont refer to them as robots or slaves who do all that you tell them to do. How is that cool? What needs to be further understood in this argument is that the Black woman and the White woman have had two different realities as it relates to their history with the Black man. The Black woman has had to endure way more than the White woman. Not to discredit the struggles of women overall, but considering the history in this country of slavery and the attempts to dismantle our family structure, we (Black women) have always ALWAYS had to be strong. Which you may interpret as not "bowing" smh.

I know many Black men, who still live with enslaved mentalities. Enslaved to the big huge chains you all care to wear around your neck as a symbol of prosperity, or the jeans you like to sag below your butt as a symbol of street cred. The fact that our men are still under the influence of insignificance & insecurity, has made it still the Black woman's responsibility to be strong. We have in most cases, been forced to have those "high standards" because our men at times dont. Dont speak on a group of women who have shaped and molded this country as we know it through their sweat, tears, bodies, and prayers- as if we are simply gold digging women unable to treat a king properly. Im sure if we were presented with a King, we would know exactly how to treat them. The issue is, many of our Kings have opted to remain slaves to the very ideas that were implemented in slavery. As demonstrated in your interview.... its all about what makes YOU feel good, how well someone is attending to YOU. Unfortunately that one sided mentally will never produce a healthy relationship regardless if youre with a Black or White woman.

Also, what is this with some Black men saying how submissive White women are? Lets be real, youre speaking on a public forum, so youve made this out to be somewhat of a good thing, but in private you all make it a joke. There is nothing great about a woman who doesnt think for herself, or feels like she has to do everything her man says simply because he said so. Submission is not a reality for many women, because its not an opportunity. Its odd how you speak from a perspective of a "rapper" who's world is not always reality. Had you spoken from a real perspective, you'd have to admit that many black women are too busy bringing home the money, taking care of the kids, and protecting the home to think about anything but that. All things reality.. Black men depend on a Black women a lot more these days than you've made it seem. I think a lot of us would love that opportunity to sumbit and depend in everyday life..- you live in a bubble Slim.

In an effort to say that the structure of relationships in the Black community needs some repairing, youve managed to say that Black women have control issues, and White women have no substance. There is always a bigger picture. This equation is unsolveable without the inclusion of the Black man. What are your faults? Whats the bigger picture? There is the dismantled Black family structure- because the Black man is missing. There are influences of history and life experiences that cause people to be as they are, whether Black or White. I will agree that some Black women dont know how to treat a real man. Many Black women didnt have a real man in their homes or even lives to show them that they can trust a man enough to let their control go. Id also be willing to go further and say most of the time, the reason they did have that example is not because their mothers were gold diggers, or had standards that were too high, but because the men in their lives punked out.. period.

In closing, I dont argue that there is no validity to what you are saying overall. There is some underlying theme here that makes sense to me. My issue is your all out assault on the women, without whom many of our children would be parentless, our communities, churches powerless, and relationships shallow. Its not really so much that our standards are too high, its just that we have them at all thats the problem, and why is that? You have standards... youre glad your girl has a degree... do you have one? Youre glad she's attentive, and submissive.... are you? Things for Thugga to think about.

Love, KayKi

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